"Confuse my overtaxed brain". Why say silly things like that when we can have an intellectual debate? Clearly I'm not confused, because as my citations above indicate, your claim was wrong, and mine was right. I was just asking you what you meant, because your statement sounds vague to me. I still don't know what exactly you're trying to say. By list system, you mean STV, or does that include ALL ordinal voting systems, such as Condorcet? I can't address your claim if you use vague terminology.