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kevin_standlee ([personal profile] kevin_standlee) wrote2009-03-23 11:15 am
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Hugo Awards: Not Enough Fantasy?

Some years ago, when a Harry Potter book won Best Novel, there was a protest at how terrible it was that Fantasy won a Hugo and that the "Hugo Judges" must Do Something about it. As I say in a comment there, I would like to put protesters of that ilk in with this poster who complains about there not being enough fantasy due to "the Hugo's blatant anti-fantasy bias." It would be amusing in a "Let's you and him fight" sort of way.

[identity profile] tkunsman.livejournal.com 2009-03-25 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
What happens when the merit is in the more fantasy, female writers, Steampunk, Space Opera, or whatever?

One one hand you want people to nominate based on merit, BUT it can NOT be a female writer, Steampunk, or fantasy - correct?

Umm, I don't think you can have it both ways.

If a steampunk novel or movie has merit for a Hugo I will nominate it and vote for it.

[identity profile] stegoking.livejournal.com 2009-03-25 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You misunderstood my message, and for that apologize for my lack of clarification.

I do not want more fantasy nominated simply because it is fantasy. I do not want more women nominated simply because they are women. Etc for the rest.

I do not want people to nominate Scalzi because they like his blog. Does anyone actually like his horrible Heinlein pastiches? I do not want people to nominate Neil Gaiman because he is SO DREAMY.

Merit is all that should considered, but it's not.

Kevin,

There is a problem with the system. There are many aspects to this problem, but there has never been a more concrete example than The Road not being nominated.

[identity profile] kevin-standlee.livejournal.com 2009-03-25 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
And I'm absolutely certain that had The Road been nominated, there would have been people just as passionately arguing that there is a problem with the system if such horrible works as The Road are being nominated. How can I be certain of that? Because you hear such complaints about every nominee.

Your passion for SF & F literature does you merit. Allowing it to delude you into paranoid fantasies about conspiracies keeping Good Works off the ballot does not.

[identity profile] stegoking.livejournal.com 2009-03-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Denial, is, obviously, a river in Egypt.

[identity profile] edgreen86.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Just curious, could you point to one award that is presented for creative works that isn't subjective?