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I was prompted by this letter to the editor that seems IMO to think that if a high-speed rail system is built in California, all trains will stop at all stations, so it's important to make sure there are only a tiny number of stations. Given that I've just returned from a country that has a high-speed rail system and manages to run multiple levels of service on it, I felt moved to write a letter to the editor of the Fremont Argus in reply. I don't expect my reply to see print, so I'm putting it here as well:

Jacque Burgess writes ("Too many stops", October 4) that "For [High Speed Rail] to be successful, there can be no more than two or three stops on the route to and from Los Angeles." An examination of countries that actually know how to operate a high-speed rail system, such as Japan, shows that this is not so. I just returned from a three-week trip to Japan, where I traveled extensively the length of the country on both their conventional rail and high-speed Shinkansen service. Japan Rail operates three levels of service on the high-speed line. All trains go fast (nearly 200 mph), but some super-express ("Nozomi") trains make almost no stops, other limited ("Hikari") trains make a few stops, and yet other stopping ("Kodama") trains stop at almost all stations, sometimes pausing for some minutes to allow faster services to pass them at the intermediate stations.

High Speed Rail is not just about getting people from the Bay Area to Los Angeles quickly, any more than Interstate 5's only purpose is to transport people from Sacramento to Los Angeles. It is also about moving people through the rapidly growing Central Valley. It is appropriate for there to be stops throughout the valley, and for the service to be scheduled with super-expresses that bypass most stops and other services that still go fast, but serve more stops.

By the way, I was bemused by the reference to "15-minute stops." Why in the world would the train have to stop for fifteen minutes? Japanese high-speed trains stop for perhaps two or three minutes at most. They roll in, people get off, people get on, and the trains leave, on time to the minute.

The USA should not be ashamed to learn from people who have not forgotten how to run a railroad.


It amazes me that people can put forth so many silly ideas while completely ignoring something that's been working in practice for years. But I guess it shouldn't really surprise me, since anything not invented here doesn't really exist, I guess.

Date: 2007-10-05 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdine.livejournal.com
Very good letter. Silly people.

I have turned into an complete grump regarding trains. I am sure everyone is sick of me.

"Back when I was in Tokyo, the trains came in so fast we didn't even think they were going to stop, we had about 30 seconds to get off or on, and then zip!, off it went! Why is this train waiting here, doing nothing for five minutes, blocking the intersection?"

Date: 2007-10-05 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garyomaha.livejournal.com
Good letter!

Except perhaps to allow for loading and off-loading additional luggage, why should long-distance trains stop for any longer than subways or commuter trains? If the stations are well-announced it makes little sense.

Date: 2007-10-05 04:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
Excellent letter. If you are not insanely busy during Worldcon I'd love to buy you a beverage and pick your brain about problems with local light rail systems and what you think would be sensible for a "fixed guideway" into the Colorado mountains. There is a lot of debate about such things locally.

Date: 2007-10-05 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kevin-standlee.livejournal.com
Okay by me, but I'm not as conversant with all of the issues as I am on Bay Area transportation news. Just don't let 'em try to build a maglev!

Date: 2007-10-05 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cynthia1960.livejournal.com
Goddess, Japan spoiled me for train travel.

Date: 2007-10-05 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidshallcross.livejournal.com
In my week and a half traveling around Japan before Worldcon, the shinkansen behaved as everyone has described, but the other trains were another story. Local trains operating out of Sendai would sit at a station for a while, waiting for the train in the other direction to arrive, just like single-track local trains anywhere else in the world. A local train northeast out of Aomori sat at a station for a half an hour, causing several passengers to miss a bus connection at Shimokita station further on. A limited express from Akita to Niigata was about an hour late arriving at Akita to start its return run. I'm sure there were good explanations, but I didn't understand enough Japanese to learn them.

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