kevin_standlee: (Pensive Kevin)
[personal profile] kevin_standlee
I will not be attending this year's World Fantasy Convention in Calgary after all, for reasons detailed here. Yes, I could go on my own, but without Cheryl, my heart really isn't in it. (And that's besides the financial aspects; while it's a shame to lose the sunk cost of the membership and airline ticket, there's still the other costs I'll avoid.)

This situation makes me furious at my own country's government and the way they have set up a border "protection" system that keeps out productive, law-abiding, good people who have been trying to follow the rules for reasons as arbitrary as "the person at the desk was having a bad day and decided he didn't like your looks, and there's nothing you can do about it." It's yet another step down a very slippery slope leading from rule-of-law to rule-of-man, and I don't like it one bit.

I'd write to my congressman, but I don't know what good it would do.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] timill
It isn't new - I nearly got bounced coming over for Boskone in 1993. Fortunately I was with others (thus adding plausibility to my story about attending a con) and I hadn't stayed long on any of my previous visits.

Plus I explained the profusion of BOS and MSP entry stamps as being due to having my frequent flyer account with Northwest, and this rang true with him.

Even if I get my Green Card, it's still true - I can be bounced on arrival in the US, though I may have a right of appeal then.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dsmoen.livejournal.com
Are you able to reschedule the airfare to maybe cover next year's worldcon?

Just a thought.

You'll pay a change fee, but it's better than losing it altogether.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esmeraldus-neo.livejournal.com
Sympathy. Read Cheryl's post, and it made me angry. time_freak and I dealt with the same stuff, just for a year, and it was hellish.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] con-girl.livejournal.com
Do complain. It is the only way this is ever going to get better.

That is completely awful. Well not completely, but we aren't going to talk about how it could be even worse.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mkillingworth.livejournal.com
Did I pick up a hint in her post that she might be working in the US? If so, couldn't she get a work visa? It's time consuming to get a visa, but it's not impossible by any means. I would think a chat with an immigration lawyer might be a good idea. It shouldn't cost much for just a consult.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:47 pm (UTC)
howeird: (Default)
From: [personal profile] howeird
Do contact your congressperson - I suggest phone instead of email, and Boxer and Feinstein. Sometimes having a US citizen sponsor can help.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisa-marli.livejournal.com
If any of our We are Friends of Cheryl and we want her to be able to enter the USofA on a regular basis signatures will help, we'll gladly give them.
Remind Cheryl she is NOT alone. Lots of friends will want to help her come and go as often as she needs.

Date: 2008-10-22 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twilight2000.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] howeird is right about that -- having a US citizen contact their own congresspersons will at least get it on the radar -- and having a US citizen sponsor even more so.

It's a place to start -- and nothing ventured, nothing gained.

(platitudes not withstanding, it's still the truth...)

Date: 2008-10-22 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourbob.livejournal.com
Other than "that's shitty" and "yes, she should talk to a lawyer", I won't make any suggestions. But that's shitty and yes, she should talk to a lawyer.

Date: 2008-10-23 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunarvixenfx.livejournal.com
Awww... I'm sad that you won't be able to come.. and more so mad that this is happening. It scares me what's going on.. I'd like to take my kids to Disneyland someday.. and I fear I will never be able to!

And I wish I could help with covering the costs.. we never managed to get our own attendance.. it just wasn't in the books with everything and the kids.. and now the baby.. and it's halloween weekend.. and kids take precedence..

Oh well.. I'm sure there will be other opportunities.

Date: 2008-10-23 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaspode.livejournal.com
Hang on... Isn't Calgary in Canada ? Which is nothing to do with the US emigration system ? She should still have no problems with a UK passport in Canada ? I have family in Vancouver and friends are back and forth from Canada all the time. The only hassles they have is driving over the Border to washing ton (though even that is easier than flying in directly) ...

Date: 2008-10-23 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckythomson.livejournal.com
Nothing I can offer but sympathy and mutual outrage.

John and I spent a day in Canada a few years ago, and John was stopped at the border trying to come home because he didn't have the 'proper documentation.' He was a naturalized U.S. citizen, traveling with his wife (who was born in the U.S.) and with a Social Security card and a legitimate job in the U.S. But because he was born in Scotland and was a citizen in Canada before he came to the U.S., this jerk wanted either a passport (John never did get one) or his citizenship papers.

I don't know why they finally recapitulated and let him come home, but I remember both of us spending an hour asking every official we could find "just what do you expect us to do?" I suppose at worse case they could have made me drive all the way home to dig out his citizenship papers (which he hadn't needed for a couple decades).

Of course, if he were alive today he would have gotten a passport, since the Canada to U.S. border has been tightened so much.

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